tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post273490399993041810..comments2023-11-25T06:26:20.521-05:00Comments on ultimatejournal: Did You Ever Wonderdusty.rhodeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05058725127054554344noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post-53739232084140341062021-05-14T18:23:50.836-05:002021-05-14T18:23:50.836-05:00Hi dusty, I just wanted to say that your article w...Hi dusty, I just wanted to say that your article was really interesting you’ve information really useful here. I’ve wanted to practice ultimate at my school but we don’t have a team, I have talk to the coordinator but he told me that there aren’t enough people, the only moment where I can play with the disc is in the break but we aren’t enough to play a match. Years ago in P.E there was the Juan Fernandezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14449781283877787418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post-3348660507452513642011-07-28T16:08:10.110-05:002011-07-28T16:08:10.110-05:00B-Lo:
I never said I don't believe in touch. ...B-Lo:<br /><br />I never said I don't believe in touch. I was probably making a point about how touch isn't vital to a good throw. That is, it is way more important for the disc to be in the right place than for it to be the softest easiest catch imaginable. The timing of the throw's arrival (the earlier the better with exceptions) is also relevant.<br /><br />Sure, I've turneddusty.rhodeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05058725127054554344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post-44069001606360620462011-07-28T15:55:41.246-05:002011-07-28T15:55:41.246-05:00BRC:
Or is it that the coaches don't always t...BRC:<br /><br />Or is it that the coaches don't always think about or understand the advice they give? Yes, both is the answer.<br /><br />What is this ludicrous obsession with getting under the force/mark's arm? Seriously, people mention that, and it doesn't fly with me. Why not throw over the mark's arm? Why prioritize one or the other? Why not do both? Contrary to the dusty.rhodeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05058725127054554344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post-5104298247884028232011-07-28T15:48:33.119-05:002011-07-28T15:48:33.119-05:00i swear i've seen you turnover your "OI t...i swear i've seen you turnover your "OI to the IO side" flick a ton of times. maybe it's because you just throw it a lot. or maybe it's because your notion of that throw creating a larger margin for error is not quite right. i mean how many points along the flight path of that throw are really viable points for the receiver to catch the disc (especially the way you throw B-Lohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16142078593977256117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post-430343117644770912011-07-28T15:37:19.221-05:002011-07-28T15:37:19.221-05:00As with most things ultimate-coaching related ... ...As with most things ultimate-coaching related ... people don't think about the advice they got, and pass on the same bad habits and coaching techniques to each new generation. <br /><br />Optimal throwing mechanics for range/power/speed/whatever criteria will always be overruled by the needs of the game. We teach throw low because thats how you get under a force's arms. <br /><br />BCRnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post-49347909709687342202011-07-28T15:19:50.143-05:002011-07-28T15:19:50.143-05:00Sorry, I've been playing mixed...and even at R...Sorry, I've been playing mixed...and even at Rutgers, passes above 6' were only caught by certain receivers (i.e. the ones that didn't suck). But I suspect that even with a bigger sphere of catchability, the ranges would still differ little to none.<br /><br />The OI-to-the-IO-side was the throw I was actually thinking about when I said you had to know where it would meet the cutter. gapoolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13379733859426588864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post-90567731637013055872011-07-28T15:11:02.133-05:002011-07-28T15:11:02.133-05:00The Extra Extension for use with the OI is also gi...The Extra Extension for use with the OI is also given by the option of releasing the disc *Earlier* with more OI (think longer path, more arc, but thrown harder and released earlier) which is prevented on an IO throw by the way that IOs travel. If I release an IO earlier and give it more IO, it will travel further away from the intended target.<br /><br />Also, I would argue that in men's dusty.rhodeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05058725127054554344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post-45067213004087126922011-07-28T15:00:15.575-05:002011-07-28T15:00:15.575-05:00There's no arguing that IO is better sometimes...There's no arguing that IO is better sometimes, OI at other times, I was referring merely to the vertical tilt of the disc, not the degree of IO/OI.<br /><br />I also ran a few numbers trying to see if the margin of error for vertical tilt angle was different for release points 6", 2.5' and 4.5' from the ground reaching targets 10yds, 20yds and 40yds away assuming that a "gapoolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13379733859426588864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post-51844679779296094862011-07-28T13:59:32.802-05:002011-07-28T13:59:32.802-05:00Glenn, you forget that OI throws are just as tilte...Glenn, you forget that OI throws are just as tilted as IO throws. Why advocate one without mentioning the other? This may be a deeper issue with the understanding of what throwing is. What "good throws" look like. <br /><br />If we draw a straight line btw the disc and the point at which it will be caught, the "under" (IO) curve, and the "over" (OI) curve, is dusty.rhodeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05058725127054554344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post-36425268163587324902011-07-28T13:53:35.717-05:002011-07-28T13:53:35.717-05:00An attempt at explanation: consistently throwing p...An attempt at explanation: consistently throwing perfectly flat is more difficult than throwing with a slight tilt because your margin of error is smaller (see: Billiards). If you are trying to throw perfectly flat into the wind, your margin of error could make the disc come out tilted slightly up or slightly down, which means the wind would push it either up or down respectively. If you start gapoolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13379733859426588864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post-58997388568733931892011-07-28T11:36:39.136-05:002011-07-28T11:36:39.136-05:00Lately, I've been considering how the non-thro...Lately, I've been considering how the non-throwing arm is positioned. Thanks for articulating what's been on my mind, while taking it to the next level with some substantive observations.Daniel H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15785726425634970897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post-91594338258821695122011-07-28T11:34:22.135-05:002011-07-28T11:34:22.135-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Daniel H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15785726425634970897noreply@blogger.com