tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post6849595471022699584..comments2023-11-25T06:26:20.521-05:00Comments on ultimatejournal: Pluotdusty.rhodeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05058725127054554344noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post-61755478585923348742007-03-05T14:50:00.000-05:002007-03-05T14:50:00.000-05:00I think I'd settle just for people learning that "...I think I'd settle just for people learning that "vertical space" means that I can't hold you down, not that I can't sky you cleanly from behind.<BR/><BR/>Hope you finish that rules proposal, it sounds interesting.Bill Millhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10065077215311205545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post-64889130886123423992007-03-05T14:04:00.000-05:002007-03-05T14:04:00.000-05:00Good heavens, this reminded me of something else: ...Good heavens, this reminded me of something else: In basketball/soccer you can touch the other player with your body or a non-extended arm to "feel" here he is and to dissuade a particular motion in a very low-level manner. Usually this is accomplished by using a light forearm or even a hand.<BR/><BR/>If you do this in ultimate, there are players who will want to fight you and will yell until dusty.rhodeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05058725127054554344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post-85979094593271202872007-03-05T13:46:00.000-05:002007-03-05T13:46:00.000-05:00I'll clarify that I'm a D player who is extremely ...I'll clarify that I'm a D player who is extremely clean on the mark (really), but feels that more contact on the field is legal than some other people do. I think that the anti-boxing out rule is silly, incomprehensible, and could always be called either way by different observers.<BR/><BR/>I also think that if I establish position in the path of where you want to go, you don't get to run me overBill Millhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10065077215311205545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post-87491444812096223942007-03-05T12:32:00.000-05:002007-03-05T12:32:00.000-05:00Good points all. I think that the most directly r...Good points all. I think that the most directly relevant are self-refereeing and the culture of ultimate.<BR/><BR/>I guess my reading of rules/laws for sports tends to fall into "yes, but any reasonable person understands that there is contact in sport." I have a very strong, though imperfect, understanding of the ins and outs of the rules, but they're just guidelines to how the game should dusty.rhodeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05058725127054554344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post-21343172125514155472007-03-05T12:14:00.000-05:002007-03-05T12:14:00.000-05:002 preliminary points:1) Touching a player with the...2 preliminary points:<BR/><BR/>1) Touching a player with the ball in basketball, anywhere but on the ball, is (almost always, technically) a foul. (Saturday's 52-50 Wisconsin win shows the consequences of actually calling it this way).<BR/><BR/>I think if ballplayers got to call their own fouls, the situation would be nearly identical to ultimate. At my gym, actually, that is the case - every Bill Millhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10065077215311205545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post-90704555026210947782007-03-05T11:08:00.000-05:002007-03-05T11:08:00.000-05:00Interesting.I should make it clear that I do not t...Interesting.<BR/><BR/>I should make it clear that I do not think picks should be legal because there is extraordinarily high risk of concussion or other serious bodily harm.<BR/><BR/>The contact I'm referencing more specifically is contact on the mark (like when you're holding hte ball in basketball) or contact in the cutting lanes and on defense in general (like when you're playing defense on ordusty.rhodeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05058725127054554344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post-83420483094670402622007-03-05T10:03:00.000-05:002007-03-05T10:03:00.000-05:00I think it's because players are often running ful...I think it's because players are often running full-tilt in opposite directions without pads, so collisions are likely to be dangerous. In basketball, you almost never reach a full sprint, and when you do, it's almost never in the opposite direction as somebody else. In soccer, you do reach a full sprint, but you're usually running at a near-stationary defender or being chased by him in the same Bill Millhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10065077215311205545noreply@blogger.com