tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post8990502788747478252..comments2023-11-25T06:26:20.521-05:00Comments on ultimatejournal: Hot Hot Boring Stadium Action (pt 5)dusty.rhodeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05058725127054554344noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post-85629728748610829762007-06-08T00:19:00.000-05:002007-06-08T00:19:00.000-05:00Long turnovers should definitely affect a defensiv...Long turnovers should definitely affect a defensive strategy, especially when you know that you can't work it 70 yards to the endzone and score. A punt into the endzone and then a subsequent turnover 20 yards out of the endzone is effectively a 50 yard completed huck - the defense should have been looking to prevent the huck as aggressively as if Stanford were completing them.<BR/><BR/>A strong The Pulsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192428373950361896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post-26849053531773443692007-06-05T15:05:00.000-05:002007-06-05T15:05:00.000-05:00Math nerds always worry about writing well. As us...Math nerds always worry about writing well. <BR/><BR/>As usual, I agree with most of what you're saying, but it seems that we have a difference in the value we place on long turnovers. <BR/><BR/>Essentially, if a particular "easy" throw (say, a swing or a dump) reaches a certain level of difficulty (or is attempted enough times) the correct decision to make is to rip it to the endzone and dusty.rhodeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05058725127054554344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post-13920293059831479752007-06-05T14:22:00.000-05:002007-06-05T14:22:00.000-05:00No blog; it takes me to much time to write well, a...No blog; it takes me to much time to write well, and I loathe writing poorly.<BR/><BR/>By no means do I claim that long turnovers open up the deep game. Turnovers should not have the effect of the defense changing strategy. Offensive success should cause you to adjust defensively.<BR/><BR/>We agree that completed hucks, especially early in the game, affect how a team defends you. I argue that Geoff Buhlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03963070549314402785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post-4942453009380325712007-06-05T10:33:00.001-05:002007-06-05T10:33:00.001-05:00Josh:I'll definitely see you Sunday of the Invite....Josh:<BR/><BR/>I'll definitely see you Sunday of the Invite. Who knows, I might try to get in touch with you before then. Another stair workout? Something less ultimate related?<BR/><BR/>Also, perhaps you could ask the G-off himself if he has a blog.dusty.rhodeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05058725127054554344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post-6628466052492550222007-06-05T10:33:00.000-05:002007-06-05T10:33:00.000-05:00I think that there are two key items to discuss he...I think that there are two key items to discuss here. The first is whether or not long turnovers open up the underneath game. What you're saying is that by throwing long turnovers, a team will cause the defense to take away the underneath cuts. That defensive change would make the deep looks more open. This seems a little strange to me. If you're playing against a team that obviously prefersdusty.rhodeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05058725127054554344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post-51344940477295297602007-06-05T08:47:00.000-05:002007-06-05T08:47:00.000-05:00Hey Dusty,Does Geoff have a blog again? His blog w...Hey Dusty,<BR/><BR/>Does Geoff have a blog again? His blog was the best ultimate blog period. i mean, besides yours of course......<BR/><BR/>See you at the Boston Invite hopefully. Well Sunday only.... stupid weddings.<BR/><BR/>-joshJosh Mullenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04943202065339434940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post-4383051822263661992007-06-04T19:39:00.000-05:002007-06-04T19:39:00.000-05:00There may be truth to the statement, "even incompl...There may be truth to the statement, "even incomplete deep shots (particularly early in the game) will help open up the field", but not a high rate of truth.<BR/><BR/>The type or distance of a throw is significantly less important than the decision behind that throw. So I reject the question you pose as irrelevant. Longer turnovers do have the advantage of being harder to fast break off of, but Geoff Buhlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03963070549314402785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post-473115918944559452007-06-04T12:43:00.000-05:002007-06-04T12:43:00.000-05:00Actually, not still drunk.There is truth to the id...Actually, not still drunk.<BR/><BR/>There is truth to the idea that even incomplete deep shots (particularly early in the game) will help open up the field. If you accept that your team will have turnovers, wouldn't you rather have 10 turnovers of +60 yards than 10 turnovers of +10 yards?<BR/><BR/>Aside from that, I stand by the comment with "high rate" providing all of the subjective wiggle dusty.rhodeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05058725127054554344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4411266245885628595.post-76516934164331419482007-06-04T11:46:00.000-05:002007-06-04T11:46:00.000-05:00Were you still drunk when you wrote "You've got to...Were you still drunk when you wrote "You've got to take deep shots in ultimate regardless of whether they are completed at a high rate.", or was that sentence ghost written by Ian?Geoff Buhlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03963070549314402785noreply@blogger.com